Running GENIVI for the first time (on RPi3)

Changhyeok Bae changhyeok.bae at gmail.com
Sun Jun 26 09:23:45 EDT 2016


>
> How do you connect to the board without wifi?
> Wired through Ethernet?
> Not connected at all?

I use wired ethernet.

2016-06-26 22:22 GMT+09:00 Assaf Harel <assaf.harel at karambasecurity.com>:

> Hi Changhyeok,
>
> Thanks for the prompt response.
> How do you connect to the board without wifi?
> Wired through Ethernet?
> Not connected at all?
>
> Regards,
> Assaf
>
>
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> On 26 Jun 2016, at 4:18 PM, Changhyeok Bae <changhyeok.bae at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Assaf
>
> 1. Can you suggest how to show a meaningful demo of the GENIVI system in
>> action?
>
>
> Yes. GDP has to develop more. So current we need lots of efforts and
> contribution. :) About this question, other members can give us more good
> answers.
>
> 2. How to connect the system through wifi?
>> connmand is indeed installed and running as a daemon, but connmanctl isn't
>> so I can't do trivial stuff like:
>
>
> GDP on rpi2 doesn't support wifi and rpi2 doesn't have wifi module.
> However I thought that you can use rpi3 with wifi but I didn't test it.
>
> Thanks
> Changhyeok
>
> 2016-06-26 16:41 GMT+09:00 Assaf Harel <assaf.harel at karambasecurity.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> First of all, the fix works, and my wireless keyboard / mouse are now
>> connected and working well.
>>
>> I still have 2 problems / questions:
>>
>> 1. Can you suggest how to show a meaningful demo of the GENIVI system in
>> action?
>> Browsing through the menus, I didn't see anything impressive, so I was
>> wondering if there are some hidden gems in there.
>> What I do see is:
>> - Applications starts an hello world app that doesn't work well
>> - Media player starts xeyes
>> - Audio manager starts a nice GUI by Windriver, but I couldn't figure out
>> how to play anything through it.
>> - Navigation navigates in a straight line through large scale polygons,
>> without any control of the keyboard and mouse
>> - Fuel suggestions doesn't work at all
>>
>> 2. How to connect the system through wifi?
>> connmand is indeed installed and running as a daemon, but connmanctl
>> isn't so I can't do trivial stuff like:
>>
>> connmanctl enable wifi
>> connmanctl scan wifi
>>
>> etc...
>> Any suggestions, or examples how do you connect to your GENIVI systems
>> would be highly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Assaf
>>
>>
>> On 24 June 2016 at 11:05, Changhyeok Bae <changhyeok.bae at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Assaf
>>>
>>> Now qt5.5.1 is merged and the keyboard problem in rpi2/3 is resolved.
>>> Please check current master branch in GDP.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Changhyeok.
>>>
>>> 2016-06-24 0:11 GMT+09:00 Assaf Harel <assaf.harel at karambasecurity.com>:
>>>
>>>> Ok, great.
>>>> I will follow these links and try to get accustomed to the system.
>>>> Hopefully the qt issue will be resolved quickly, as for now the system
>>>> is not very responsive...
>>>>
>>>> Assaf
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 18:10 Agustin Benito Bethencourt <
>>>> agustin.benito at codethink.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi again,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/06/16 16:05, Agustin Benito Bethencourt wrote:
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 23/06/16 15:16, Assaf Harel wrote:
>>>>> >> Hi Jeremiah,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> See my answers >>inline
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>> >> Assaf
>>>>> >> *
>>>>> >> Assaf Harel **- **CTO & Co-Founder*
>>>>> >> *Karamba Security*
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Israel: +972 52 720 6732 <tel:%2B972%2052%20473%209064
>>>>> <%2B972%2052%20473%209064>>
>>>>> >> US:+1 734 794 4745 <tel:%2B1%20734%20794%204745
>>>>> <%2B1%20734%20794%204745>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> www.karambasecurity.com <http://www.karambasecurity.com>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On 22 Jun 2016, at 3:47 PM, Jeremiah Foster
>>>>> >>> <jeremiah.foster at pelagicore.com
>>>>> >>> <mailto:jeremiah.foster at pelagicore.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Assaf Harel
>>>>> >>> <assaf.harel at karambasecurity.com
>>>>> >>> <mailto:assaf.harel at karambasecurity.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>     Hi All,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hi Assaf,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>     I followed the GDP wiki pages about building and installing
>>>>> GENIVI
>>>>> >>>     on raspberry pi (I have RPI3 board).
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Which image did you build? I'm assuming the GDP (GENIVI Development
>>>>> >>> Platform) but I thought I would sanity check. :-)
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>  >> Yes, I’ve build GDP 9, based on the instructions on the wiki.
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>     Everything loads up pretty well, but afterwards almost nothing
>>>>> >>>     woks for me.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>     I’m connected through HDMI to a screen, and have usb wireless
>>>>> >>>     keyboard and mouse.
>>>>> >>>     After boot up, I see the Genivi UI, and can click with the
>>>>> mouse,
>>>>> >>>     but I don’t see anything happening, and one of the apps do
>>>>> start
>>>>> >>>     (navigation for instance), I don’t know how to return back.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> This sounds like a known bug. Can you see if your logs are
>>>>> providing
>>>>> >>> any info?
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>  >> Right, known bug. Waiting anxiously for its solution…
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>     Also, is there some setting page, where I can configure the
>>>>> wifi
>>>>> >>>     settings?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Wifi settings should be done via Connman configuration if I'm not
>>>>> >>> mistaken.
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>  >> Based on this, I’ve found Connmand running, but haven’t found
>>>>> its
>>>>> >> configuration file, so the board is still not connected.
>>>>> >>  >> More assistance would be greatly appreciated…
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>     I suspect that when the board will be connected, anything will
>>>>> >>>     work smoother.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> You mean connected to the network?
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>  >> Yes
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>     Also, If there’s some how-to-use GENIVI document you can
>>>>> direct me
>>>>> >>>     to, I’ll gladly read it.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> There is this page:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=11567210#GENIVIDevelopmentPlatform(GDP)-HowdoIusetheGENIVIDevelopmentPlatform
>>>>> ?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> But that really covers usage from a developer perspective, not
>>>>> from an
>>>>> >>> end user perspective. This page has an overview:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=11567879
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> but it has a limited number of how-tos.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> It would be great to hear from you what type of documentation
>>>>> you're
>>>>> >>> looking for -- obviously something that helps to configure the wifi
>>>>> >>> once you've installed, but perhaps there is other specific
>>>>> information
>>>>> >>> you'd like to get started?
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>  >> Try to look at it from the eyes of a newbie. I’m familiar with
>>>>> open
>>>>> >> source, GIT, toolchains, HW configuration, etc.
>>>>> >>  >> What I’m not familiar with is the GENIVI system (as always when
>>>>> >> you’re new to an open source system).
>>>>> >>  >> So tell me what you’re trying to do, and how do you do it, and
>>>>> walk
>>>>> >> me through the first 2 hours of work.
>>>>> >>  >> What should I do, what do I see, how do I configure, how do I
>>>>> make
>>>>> >> it work, etc.
>>>>> >>  >> The GDP9 wiki instruct me on how to build and burn on flash, but
>>>>> >> after the board init, I have no idea with to do with it...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Assaf, you are absolutely right.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > GENIVI still have a lot to do in order to provide an "easy to use"
>>>>> > platform. Providing a software that boots in several boards is only
>>>>> the
>>>>> > starting point. That is where we are. We have improved, but is not
>>>>> enough.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Currently, you get to GDP through its landing (home page[1]( or
>>>>> download
>>>>> > page[2]. You navigate through the feature page[3] to discover what is
>>>>> > about the latest version and then you arrive to the target page[4] to
>>>>> > make GDP boot in your board. If you are lucky and it boots, you go to
>>>>> > GDP In Detail[5] to start learning what is inside this new system but
>>>>> > from that point there is a huge gap.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > GENIVI is divided in groups. We still lack a sense of "product" when
>>>>> it
>>>>> > comes to GDP. As usual, the documentation is just the reflection of a
>>>>> > deeper problem.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The good news is that we are aware of the problem and that we can
>>>>> > improve it without an outstanding effort in two ways:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1.- Reinforcing the above path to ensure that newcomers do not get
>>>>> lost
>>>>> > and arrive to GDP in Detail page.
>>>>> > 2.- Making sure that, from that page, a user arrives to the
>>>>> meaningful
>>>>> > information we already have about the different GENIVI components.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That way we can detect the current gaps in documentation and fill
>>>>> them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We can and should improve the situation in the next release.
>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>> > we are putting effort in providing a good support, that partly
>>>>> mitigates
>>>>> > the gaps.
>>>>>
>>>>> I pressed the Send Now button....
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://projects.genivi.org/gdp
>>>>> [2] http://projects.genivi.org/gdp/download
>>>>> [3] http://projects.genivi.org/gdp9
>>>>> [4]
>>>>>
>>>>> https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/GDP+target+boards%2C+virtualization+and+peripherals
>>>>> [5]
>>>>>
>>>>> https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=11567879
>>>>>
>>>>>  From the links you can easily see another of those issues we are
>>>>> working on currently and that is in its way to be fixed in the next
>>>>> release, the URLs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>  >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Regards,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Jeremiah
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>     Thanks,
>>>>> >>>     Assaf
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>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>> Jeremiah C. Foster
>>>>> >>> GENIVI COMMUNITY MANAGER
>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>> Gothenburg, Sweden
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>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Agustin Benito Bethencourt
>>>>> Principal Consultant - FOSS at Codethink
>>>>> agustin.benito at codethink.co.uk
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Assaf Harel - CTO & Co-Founder
>> Karamba Security
>>
>> Israel: +972 52 720 6732
>> US:    +1 734 794 4745
>>
>> 2723 South State Street
>> Ann Arbor, MI, 48104
>>
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